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- 1977-05-12 ( check for other copies)
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Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Tennessee Jed, Cassidy, Peggy-O, Jack Straw, They Love Each Other, Minglewood Blues, Mississippi Half Step-> Dancin' In The Streets Samson & Delilah, Brown Eyed Women, Estimated Prophet, Sunrise, Terrapin Station-> Playin' In The Band-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Comes A Time-> Playin' In The Band, E: Johnny B. Goode
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Master Audience Reel > unknown mics/deck> DAT > CDR; fresh transcription of a previously circulating copy (see notes in txt); Re-Mastering by Scott Clugston; missing Cassidy, splice in NFA; d1 tracked for 80 min
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- gd77-05-12.aud.clugston.6484.sbeok.shnf
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- Master Audience Reel > unknown mics/deck> DAT > CDR
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- Chicago, IL
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- 2
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- sound
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- Auditorium Theatre
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- 1977
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Reviewer:
Fennario Spring
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May 5, 2025
Subject: Mahalo Gary C For The Taper Insight
Subject: Mahalo Gary C For The Taper Insight
Re: Gary C. - favoritefavoritefavorite - February 20, 2009
Great to get some insight on the probable original taping. Check out the end of Johnny B. ... Goode for some back and forth between the taper and an other one curious about their setup. Despite the mentioned flaws, this whole show is worth a listen. I can mention that MAMU is off to the races, wicked rad pace. Lots to appreciate about this underrated endeavor.
Great to get some insight on the probable original taping. Check out the end of Johnny B. ... Goode for some back and forth between the taper and an other one curious about their setup. Despite the mentioned flaws, this whole show is worth a listen. I can mention that MAMU is off to the races, wicked rad pace. Lots to appreciate about this underrated endeavor.
Reviewer:
Terrapin Landing
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June 1, 2023
Subject: My dog, he turned to me and he said
Subject: My dog, he turned to me and he said
This is the best performance of Tennessee Jed!
Reviewer:
mcgrupp216
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May 7, 2018
Subject: MAGICAL, MYTHICAL MAY 1977!
Subject: MAGICAL, MYTHICAL MAY 1977!
So much of May '77 has received the official release treatment: Dick's 3 (5/22/77), Dick's 29 (5/19 and 5/21), To Terrapin: Hartford '77 (5/28), Dave's
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1 (5/25), May 1977 (5/11, 5/12, 5/13, 5/15, 5/17), and Get Shown the Light (5/5, 5/7, 5/8, 5/9). For those keeping track, that leaves only a remaining six shows from the magical, mythical month of May: 5/1, 5/3, 5/4, 5/18, 5/22, 5/26.
I must say, then, I'm with Mind Wondrin on this: Why don't we have an excellent SBD up here in the archive? I also agree that while there's some standout song performances, this is really just an average May '77 show. In other words, it's very good. Unfortunately, because of the sound issues of this AUD recording, I have to give it three stars. I'd like to listen to this show from the May 1977 box and see if my view changes, but it's hard to listen to this show post-drums. A shame because it's the end of a sweet PITB sandwich (NFA->Comes A Time->Playing reprise). The Terrapin preceding the Playing is a beauty. Otherwise, Bobby sounds excellent on rhythm the whole night-- check him out on Bertha right out the gates!
I must say, then, I'm with Mind Wondrin on this: Why don't we have an excellent SBD up here in the archive? I also agree that while there's some standout song performances, this is really just an average May '77 show. In other words, it's very good. Unfortunately, because of the sound issues of this AUD recording, I have to give it three stars. I'd like to listen to this show from the May 1977 box and see if my view changes, but it's hard to listen to this show post-drums. A shame because it's the end of a sweet PITB sandwich (NFA->Comes A Time->Playing reprise). The Terrapin preceding the Playing is a beauty. Otherwise, Bobby sounds excellent on rhythm the whole night-- check him out on Bertha right out the gates!
Reviewer:
grateful phishmon
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May 18, 2013 (edited)
Subject: This one's on the box set
Subject: This one's on the box set
presumably with perfect sound. Don't know if I'll shell out for all 5 to get this one, though. And if I had to pick just one, not sure it'd be this,
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although the Not Fade is wild, wooly, and fun listening even with the pitch weirdness. Donna's even on key. BTW, don't know what's with the haters, I love Sunrise with tears streaming down my face, and this is a well-sung version. Only three stars cause it's a barely listenable AUD.
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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August 31, 2012 (edited)
Subject: Still a May77
Not sure why the excellent SBD for this show's never been uploaded on the archive - yet. The show has been officially released twice, first in part ... on the Winterland June 1977 box, which missed the 1st set highlight, Tennessee, but did include the wonderful Mississippi. The 2nd set's fantastic Samson is missing from the SBD sources so you have to go to this AUD. The rest of the show is average (for May '77). Since this came two shows after Buffalo and three before Alabama - two of the greatest shows in history - maybe that's unexpected. It's still the May '77 sound and quality. The Terrapin Station album hadn't yet been released for these punters, so some songs would have been a surprise (ex. AUD reaction to Sunrise). The first of two shows at the ornate theater, the second show is the better show overall (even though most of the six repeated songs are better on this night). That said, my opinion of this show has improved over time by a whole star - it's just very mellow. But it's solid and Donna is much better than usual.
First Set. It's a solid set, though average for this tour, with only a few standouts compared to elsewhere in the month. It's played oddly casual, but nice; like the St. Stephen's Bobby-licks in Bertha, and listen to how good he is in Tennessee. Jack Straw and TLEO are a bit flat but the rest is certainly solid - especially the powerful Mississippi.
Second Set. Samson is a rampaging beast (when it starts somebody yells "Alligator!". In 77!). Brown Eyed Women is good - the set is good because Bobby is so good this night and the drummers are tight. There are a dozen examples of Terrapin on this tour but none seem to match 4/30. The rest is average for May '77 but still solid. The encore centers on Keith.
1st Set: B
2nd Set: B-
Overall = 3¾ stars
Highlights:
Tennessee Jed - one of many top TJs in May '77
Half-step Mississippi - opens up huge and Donna is great
Samson & Delilah - a beast of a Samson
Brown-Eyed Women - Bobby great
SOURCES: Both the clugston and the Gatto use the same reels but the clugton6484 sounds better and fixes the pitch problems (mostly - the second set is still pitched too fast). A fine SBD circulates, but it's missing the Samson. Officially released on the May 1977 box. Eight tracks are also on the Winterland June 1977 box bonus disc.
Subject: Still a May77
Not sure why the excellent SBD for this show's never been uploaded on the archive - yet. The show has been officially released twice, first in part ... on the Winterland June 1977 box, which missed the 1st set highlight, Tennessee, but did include the wonderful Mississippi. The 2nd set's fantastic Samson is missing from the SBD sources so you have to go to this AUD. The rest of the show is average (for May '77). Since this came two shows after Buffalo and three before Alabama - two of the greatest shows in history - maybe that's unexpected. It's still the May '77 sound and quality. The Terrapin Station album hadn't yet been released for these punters, so some songs would have been a surprise (ex. AUD reaction to Sunrise). The first of two shows at the ornate theater, the second show is the better show overall (even though most of the six repeated songs are better on this night). That said, my opinion of this show has improved over time by a whole star - it's just very mellow. But it's solid and Donna is much better than usual.
First Set. It's a solid set, though average for this tour, with only a few standouts compared to elsewhere in the month. It's played oddly casual, but nice; like the St. Stephen's Bobby-licks in Bertha, and listen to how good he is in Tennessee. Jack Straw and TLEO are a bit flat but the rest is certainly solid - especially the powerful Mississippi.
Second Set. Samson is a rampaging beast (when it starts somebody yells "Alligator!". In 77!). Brown Eyed Women is good - the set is good because Bobby is so good this night and the drummers are tight. There are a dozen examples of Terrapin on this tour but none seem to match 4/30. The rest is average for May '77 but still solid. The encore centers on Keith.
1st Set: B
2nd Set: B-
Overall = 3¾ stars
Highlights:
Tennessee Jed - one of many top TJs in May '77
Half-step Mississippi - opens up huge and Donna is great
Samson & Delilah - a beast of a Samson
Brown-Eyed Women - Bobby great
SOURCES: Both the clugston and the Gatto use the same reels but the clugton6484 sounds better and fixes the pitch problems (mostly - the second set is still pitched too fast). A fine SBD circulates, but it's missing the Samson. Officially released on the May 1977 box. Eight tracks are also on the Winterland June 1977 box bonus disc.
Reviewer:
EstimatedProphet082508
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July 30, 2012
Subject: Cassidy
Subject: Cassidy
Nothin' wrong with this recording, it sounds fine to me. Only wish it wasn't missing Cassidy.
No, it's not a perfect soundboard, but it is a very nice ... AUD. recording that kinda gives you the feel like you are there with the prescence of some (non-overpowering) audiance noise.
What do people want or expect--a perfect recording of every show ? People need to remember this is still 1977, where the recording technology was nothing like it is today.
No, it's not a perfect soundboard, but it is a very nice ... AUD. recording that kinda gives you the feel like you are there with the prescence of some (non-overpowering) audiance noise.
What do people want or expect--a perfect recording of every show ? People need to remember this is still 1977, where the recording technology was nothing like it is today.
Reviewer:
Dave Davis
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June 8, 2010
Subject: Thank You Again
Subject: Thank You Again
Thanks for the bonus disk in the Winterland 77 Box. Never listened to this but 1/2 Step->Dancin to open the Second Set is another May 77 jewel, I had
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never heard before.
Reviewer:
Jim F
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June 5, 2010
Subject: Bad Rap
Subject: Bad Rap
I think this recording gets a bad rap. For me anyway, it isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be. Maybe I'm just an AUD optimist but I find it
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listenable (though honestly I've really only listened to the second set jam sequence). It is chock full of high end, which I like, personally. The complaints about the drums are exaggerated, imo, I think they might be a tad low but otherwise have good presence, and all of the other instruments and vocals are very present and up front, it doesn't have that far back in the hall echo that ruins auds for me. I might even go as far to say that you could almost pass this off as a rather degraded/multigen FM broadcast, if not for the chatter.
There is some chatter here and there, but it isn't that much of a distraction, even during Comes a Time. By far the greatest downfall are the speed/pitch issues late in the show. But if you can put up with them, this is a mighty fine performance.
All that said, it's a May 77 show WITH a Comes a Time, I'm willing to put up with a lot for that. Though hopefully someday the full board comes out, as the bonus disc that came with the Winterland 77 box set sounds great.
No stars because I prefer not to use such a subjective rating scale on the overall subjective nature of enjoying and describing both performances and recordings.
There is some chatter here and there, but it isn't that much of a distraction, even during Comes a Time. By far the greatest downfall are the speed/pitch issues late in the show. But if you can put up with them, this is a mighty fine performance.
All that said, it's a May 77 show WITH a Comes a Time, I'm willing to put up with a lot for that. Though hopefully someday the full board comes out, as the bonus disc that came with the Winterland 77 box set sounds great.
No stars because I prefer not to use such a subjective rating scale on the overall subjective nature of enjoying and describing both performances and recordings.
Reviewer:
whirlwind dreamer 65-95
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May 12, 2010
Subject: oh yeah! its 77"
Subject: oh yeah! its 77"
phil and jerry are sounding like 2 angels playing for the world great show. no complaints from me!!! enjoying some coffee with a classic like rt
Reviewer:
Gary C.
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February 20, 2009
Subject: The Story I'm Told
Subject: The Story I'm Told
OK, this is my first "review". I grew up and lived in the Chicago area until 1986. Saw all my early shows at the old Uptown Theatre. In 1984 I met a
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guy who claimed he helped record many Mid-West shows with a friend of his who owned the taping gear. Between the two of them they would smuggle in the deck, mics, mics stand etc. His name was Dave Bushnell. You out there Dave? Anyway, his friend (Dave never told me his name) who owned the gear got married in the early 80's and left the Dead scene. Before parting ways, he gave Dave all the master cassettes the two of them had recorded together. 5/12/77 was one of the tapes Dave turned me on to. The show posted here sounds exactly like the tape I made from Dave's "master" cassette back in '84. I still have the tape. The thing that convinced me that it was probably a master (along with the other tapes) was that his copy was an old style Maxell tape. It had the old Maxell label glued on the cassette so you had to write your info right on the tape. He also had all the ticket stubs for every show he claimed to record still in the tape case. Sure, he could have copied the shows from someone else back in the 70's, but he seemed to have some pretty detailed memories of his taping exploits. He told me that at the beginning of this show, Candice Brightman (the Deads Lighting Operator) spilled coffee on the soundboard by accident which is why he thought Bertha sounded kinda wonky until they cleaned up the spill. Dave said that, yes, they were having battery problems during the show, but were hoping for the best. My cassette has the missing Cassidy, but if you think the Not Fade has problems, well the Cassidy is far worse. That might be why the Archive guru's left it off the download. But once the song ends, then the tape sounds fine again. Weird... Dave also had "masters" of 10/29/77, 5/17/77, 1/30/78, 1/31/78, 2/3/78, 2/4/78, 7/3/78, 2/4/79 (more pitch problems in set one) and the three 1980 August Uptown shows. He also said that all the shows he helped tape, they always used his friends Sony TC-150 deck with AKG mics. I know Archive list's other tapers for many of these shows, but Dave always seemed to have a sincerity about him. I don't think it's a stretch to believe that more than one deck got into these shows. And all he ever wanted at the time was to just get the shows into circulation, because at that time these shows were still pretty rare. Yes, 5/12 has it's problems, but the playing that night was way above average, even for '77. Hope this sheds some light on this often overlooked Chicago show.
Reviewer:
NYLifer
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May 12, 2008
Subject: Not Fade Away to end is flawed
Subject: Not Fade Away to end is flawed
Tape deck batteries must be dying as the source speeds up midway through NFA. Too bad, it wasn't a bad listen.
Bob
Bob
Reviewer:
WolfmansBrother
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February 19, 2008 (edited)
Subject: dropped way too much acid
Subject: dropped way too much acid
well, i've been on this run since the spectrum, which seems eons ago now, and for the first time in 16 shows, i got just a tad too fucked up for tonight's
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show. the blotter i ate wreaked total havoc with my ears and i felt like i was listening to this with one of those no-scratch cones they put around a dog's neck on MY head.
i have a vague memory of a really strong jack straw and a minglewood and then reality went south for me during the half-step>dancin' sequence which was just waaaay out there. i came to my senses (that being a relative concept) after sunrise, which gave me that same strange "am i at a dead show?" feeling it did in nyc. a rare and different tune indeed as the big jam sequence was just what my sizzled brain required, with a deep and funky playing surrounding the yin/yang of NFA>comes a time. jesus h. cricket but they simply cannot, i say cannot, play better than that.
bring on night two!!
****
spoiled children complain, undeservedly, about this recording. not the worst of this tour so far, or of the band ever. it's got "It" regardless of some "slight imperfections." i hope all the whiners are serving up juicy fob auds every time they go to a show today, but i suspect not.
i have a vague memory of a really strong jack straw and a minglewood and then reality went south for me during the half-step>dancin' sequence which was just waaaay out there. i came to my senses (that being a relative concept) after sunrise, which gave me that same strange "am i at a dead show?" feeling it did in nyc. a rare and different tune indeed as the big jam sequence was just what my sizzled brain required, with a deep and funky playing surrounding the yin/yang of NFA>comes a time. jesus h. cricket but they simply cannot, i say cannot, play better than that.
bring on night two!!
****
spoiled children complain, undeservedly, about this recording. not the worst of this tour so far, or of the band ever. it's got "It" regardless of some "slight imperfections." i hope all the whiners are serving up juicy fob auds every time they go to a show today, but i suspect not.
Reviewer:
spathorton
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May 24, 2007
Subject: I was there
Subject: I was there
My first GD concert. Didn't have a clue what I was getting into. Had never heard music played like that before. Lots of fun with the ushers.
Reviewer:
Ash72
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December 2, 2006
Subject: It's got Peggy-O!
Subject: It's got Peggy-O!
As a general rule, any show with Peggy-O is gonna be a good one. Enjoy!
Reviewer:
JammingGD
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November 27, 2006
Subject: Good SHit
Subject: Good SHit
It's the Grateful Dead, theyre always GRATE, i'm not going to bitch and moan about the "pitch" or the sound being not exactly perfect. Its good music,
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and a good concert.
Reviewer:
QHRunner
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November 27, 2006
Subject: You Want Perfection
Subject: You Want Perfection
There's no doubt this is not a perfect AUD, but Estimated Prophet is definitely great. If you want perfection, listen to 5-13-77 from the SBD recording
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on the streaming portion of this archive. Might be in the top five of all time. Too bad we can't download that show.
Reviewer:
smgarcia
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June 14, 2006
Subject: Not a good recording
Subject: Not a good recording
This is a pretty bad recording, and it's a bad audience at that. First we are missing Cassidy in its entirety, there is a strong hiss that can be heard
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at low levels, it is difficult to hear the drums, the mixing is all off (aud's don't mix anyway).
I want all of May 1977, but I'm going to remove this one from my iTunes, or just not listen to it altogether. There are thousands of better recordings on here at archive.org.
I want all of May 1977, but I'm going to remove this one from my iTunes, or just not listen to it altogether. There are thousands of better recordings on here at archive.org.
Reviewer:
capn doubledose
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December 29, 2005 (edited)
Subject: People What the F*ck? ? This is a '77 audience not a digital master you have to rate this in context ... and NOT AFTER 1 SONG
Subject: People What the F*ck? ? This is a '77 audience not a digital master you have to rate this in context ... and NOT AFTER 1 SONG
There is NOTHING WRONG with this show, in fact this is chock full of unbelievable music and some hilarious snippets like the guy getting booted for smoking
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dope in the beginning of Estimated (awesome) after he was warned the 1st time. Half Step is insane one of the best of the year as is the Dancin and this is still the 1st set!
Set II is wonderful and a solid '77 addition. Terrapin>Playin is rocking and it's a long set.
Set II is wonderful and a solid '77 addition. Terrapin>Playin is rocking and it's a long set.
Reviewer:
hjl1450
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July 22, 2005
Subject: I think it sounds great!
Subject: I think it sounds great!
I love the sound of this show, it's an auditorium and the reverb and quality are probably true to form. NFA really rocks and you can tell people are diggin'
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it, great vibe!
One of things that I appreciate about these recordings is the variation of sound by venue that reflects authentic moods and experience. If they all sounded like Dick's Picks quality, it wouldn't be the same. May, 1977 gets high rating no matter what!
One of things that I appreciate about these recordings is the variation of sound by venue that reflects authentic moods and experience. If they all sounded like Dick's Picks quality, it wouldn't be the same. May, 1977 gets high rating no matter what!
Reviewer:
gonzoc
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June 5, 2005
Subject: Pitch Problems
Subject: Pitch Problems
This should be a very nice sounding audience (maybe a little bit saturated on the highs, but not bad), BUT, the pitch problems will drive you to distraction.
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Plus, some idiot felt it necessary to jaw through a large chunk of Comes A Time.
Reviewer:
flashbackmagic
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September 30, 2004
Subject: hmmm
Subject: hmmm
i popped on the first track, and just had to shut it off. While im SURE there are some great jams within, I think I'll wait unitl a better copy surfaces.
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It upset me too much to hear that awful recording.
Reviewer:
4x4
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September 13, 2004
Subject: Agreed!
Subject: Agreed!
DTV is right on, It would be great to have a sbd of this show. The playing throughout is right up there with the rest of the month. Jerry's second solo
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during jack straw is a perfect example of how he could transcemd the rest of the band and take everyone higher with him. Totally awesome.
Reviewer:
DTV
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August 1, 2004
Subject: Must have better copy!
Subject: Must have better copy!
Please somebody, anybody provide the archive with a better copy of this show. This could be the best show of the most critically aclaimed year for live
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dead. Give this poor copy a listen and you'll be licking your chops for better quality. With better sound this is a five star without a doubt.
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